Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to the podcast.
[00:00:00] Speaker B: Yeah, it's our movie podcast.
[00:00:02] Speaker A: This is our movie podcast.
[00:00:04] Speaker B: We are doing long legs, which came out in theaters, what, a couple weeks ago.
[00:00:10] Speaker A: Yeah, it did.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: But we're now just getting around to talk about it.
So. Quick, Marquez, if you have been following us for a while, which we're not, like, super gigantic big. So if you're our friends or family, we used to have another podcast that was pretty similar. Yes, we did. So because that we're now getting back into this.
I have a gift for you.
A gift? I have a gift. Something that's reminiscent of the olden days.
[00:00:43] Speaker A: Is it yu gi oh cards?
[00:00:44] Speaker B: Oh, I wish. That'd be a really better gift.
[00:00:46] Speaker A: Is it Beyblades?
[00:00:47] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Dude, that would be such a better gift.
[00:00:50] Speaker A: Is it a Pez dispenser?
[00:00:52] Speaker B: No, I didn't really like that much.
[00:00:54] Speaker A: Fucking hate those.
[00:00:56] Speaker B: I liked when I was like, kid, like, really kidding. The orange ones were good, but besides that. Anyways, I got you a tall boy. I got you a long boy for a long legs movie review.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: It's called Stacy's.
[00:01:11] Speaker A: I brought my long legs today, too. This is crazy. What a coincidence.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: That's good.
So we're gonna crack these bad boys.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: Does that say Stacy's mom?
[00:01:18] Speaker B: Stacy's mom.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: Is this Stacy's mom's juice?
[00:01:20] Speaker B: It's Stacy's mom's juice.
[00:01:22] Speaker A: That's crazy. It's citrus flavored.
[00:01:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, interesting. I like citrus flavor. Anyway, I just picked it up because it says Stacey's mom, and they were long, so 7.5%.
That is a lot, now that I think about it.
[00:01:37] Speaker A: No, it's okay.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: Anyways, we're gonna crack these open real quick.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: Crack them open. Hey, here's some ASMR content.
[00:01:49] Speaker B: I was like, I think that's gonna fly everywhere. That was my thought.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: It didn't.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: I thought it was gonna fly everywhere.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: I was careful.
[00:01:56] Speaker B: All right, let's take these long boys and see how they taste and then get into this long legs review.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: Stacy's mom just spilled it all over myself.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: I'm really pissed. I'm sorry.
[00:02:09] Speaker A: I love that for you, dude.
[00:02:10] Speaker B: It is a nice little citrus app. It sounds like an extremely harsh ipa flavor.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: No, I've definitely had harder.
[00:02:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I like it. I honestly, I don't really care for ipas, but this one's not too bad.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: Thank you, Stacey.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah, thank you. Your mom did a really good job. Yeah, but why are you. Why are you trying to, like, you know, try to hit on that, like, that kid Stacy's mom.
[00:02:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess that actually, that's Stacey.
[00:02:36] Speaker B: Can't you see that that's just not right?
[00:02:39] Speaker A: It's 2024 now. We're canceling everybody out here, even Stacey's mom. She should have been first to be real.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. All right.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: What you got for us, man?
[00:02:49] Speaker B: Okay, well, first topic, why did he. Why did he have long legs?
[00:02:53] Speaker A: That is a great question. You know, this movie starred Nick Cage and Michael Monroe. Fantastic people.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: We won't.
[00:03:01] Speaker A: Fantastic act.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: I want to first say we should not do spoilers first. I just thought that was a funny interest.
[00:03:06] Speaker A: No, I won't spoil, but I will spoil about this man's obnoxiously average size legs.
[00:03:12] Speaker B: Yeah, they were pretty average legs.
[00:03:14] Speaker A: I didn't think they were any longer than the normal sized person. I think. I do think Nick Cage is on the taller side, but I wouldn't say that he had long legs or that his legs ever grew much.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure really where that. Where the long legs name came from. I had a thing for this film where I really felt like this film should have been called Cuckoo.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: Yes, I remember you telling me. Yeah.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: But unfortunately, we've got this movie coming out now called Cuckoo by the director David Latimus.
[00:03:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
The same director who did poor things. Poor things.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: Yes, I'm.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: That's. No, he did another film. That's. That's a different movie. Cuckoo is a different film, though, that. I don't know who the director.
He did another.
[00:04:06] Speaker A: I think it is him. I think it's him. So I could be wrong either way. Cuckoo's coming out, right? Not by neon, but it's already coming out. So you can't have two movies coming out at the same time with the same name. I get it. But the movie should have been called. That would have been crazy. Would have been ingenious. He says Cuckoo a lot. Says it a lot more. Kind of funny. He does say a lot more than long legs. It makes a lot more sense. He's just, it's just kind of one of those things where it's just kind of like, like babadook, you know? Yeah, Babadook is his name. But he also be saying it. They be saying it so, like, it reinforces it. And you're like, oh, that's a. That's crazy. That sounds good. That sound. That sounds really, really scary and, you know, spooky. But long legs isn't. It's just kind of long legs.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't get it. Not the movie to an extent, but I didn't get. I didn't get why it's called long legs. But leading from that, the performance of the Nick Cage of Nicolas Cage.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: He's Nick caging it up.
[00:05:03] Speaker B: What did you like compared to his other performances?
[00:05:08] Speaker A: I think there's just such a.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: On the level of Nick Cage, I.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Think there's always this conversation when it comes to Nick Cage where it's like, you have people that love Nick Cage because they're, like, always caging it up. It's crazy. We love it over the top. And then you have the people that are really like, I freaking hate this man. I hate his acting. I think he's bad. I don't know why you guys like it and you. And it's almost a similar but different conversation with, like, Adam Sandler. They they kind of do those actors fall a bit into that lane. And I would always argue with people, and I will say, I'll stay on this, that both are fantastic actors. Nick Cage is a fantastic actor. Adam Sandler is a fantastic actor. What these guys do in their roles is unique and special. That's why they keep getting movies made. It's not. It's not because, you know, someone's just handed them money. Like, it's because they're. They're good at what they do.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: Right.
[00:06:06] Speaker A: And I think that casting Nick Cage in this film and giving him, like, the. The freedom to kind of really jump into this character in the way that he does and use his abilities that, you know, he clearly has in other movies of doing his cages and, like, being, you know, over the top, if you will, and then. But playing it up for scares. It worked. It worked for me, you know? And, yeah, there. There are a couple scenes where, like, you can. Obviously, you'll. You're. It's gonna be divisive, and you're gonna get the people that really don't like it that are gonna be like, ah, that's too much. That's too far, you know? And I think on first watch, I definitely was a fence sitter on that, where I was kind of like, I don't know. I feel about that. But on second watch, when I watched it twice, I was like, no, I like it. I mean, I'm here for it. I'm here.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: All right, well, maybe I need to watch it again, because I think I'm a fence right now.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: You're offense sitter. I definitely offense sitter.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: I definitely don't hate it.
[00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:59] Speaker B: Like, I still will say today, like, my least favorite net. Like Nick Cage film. Least favorite one of my least favorite movies. Least favorite Marvel films. It's ghostwriter two.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: Oh, God, he said it.
[00:07:15] Speaker B: It's ghostwriter suit. It's bad. I literally wanted to leave the theater.
I literally wanted to leave the theater.
[00:07:22] Speaker A: But again, I would say. I would argue that remake that movie now cast Nick Cage again. I bet it's fantastic.
I bet it's a great. A fantastic movie.
[00:07:34] Speaker B: I, you know, that was actually a cameo. I thought we were gonna get a deadpool.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: That would have been fun.
[00:07:39] Speaker B: Did not.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: That's okay. That's idea that. That those movies were just, you know, it wasn't their time. Maybe it will be later on. But I didn't think that Nick Cage was a bad choice. I think that.
[00:07:51] Speaker B: Oh, no, no.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: It was. It wasn't. It wasn't their time.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: I think the first one was fine. I thought the first one was fun.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:58] Speaker B: The second one was just. No, no.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: I think that him and long, Les. Long legs worked. I enjoyed his performance a lot.
[00:08:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. I think it was pretty fun.
There was definitely unsettling moments, but we'll get into that later.
I want to talk about how this film kind of shot up to be the scariest movie in ten years.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: Marketing is saying, yeah.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: I don't know, man. The marketing. This is my gripe when it comes to marketing films. I got a gripe and you ready for my gripe?
[00:08:33] Speaker B: I'm here to listen.
[00:08:34] Speaker A: All right, thank you. So my gripe here. Right. I really need the marketing people of Hollywood to hear me.
We really gotta stop misleading people when it comes to marketing. Okay.
This movie was not a sinister, it was not a conjuring.
It was more a seven mixed with maybe a criminal minds episode, you know, mixed with maybe a little bit of X Files, a little bit for the supernatural part. But all in all, it's a bit of a cop movie.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: A detective thing.
[00:09:18] Speaker B: That's what it is at its forefront.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a detective film. A good one. A really good one. And very entertaining and enjoyable. But we got to stop using just like over the top marketing to get people in seats and start to believe more. Like trust more in your filmmakers and the movie that they made and lift the film up for what it is, not for what you want people to think it is.
Because I feel like that, for one, that's honest, and for two, I think that's all that's going to do is really get people to champion your film. You're gonna get real fans that way, you know, you're gonna get real legs that way.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: Real long legs.
[00:10:03] Speaker A: Real long legs that way.
[00:10:04] Speaker B: Like, deep. I'm talking, like, touching, like, 80 yard long legs. Yeah. Like, you just take one step and you're already up the stairs.
[00:10:13] Speaker A: Exactly, like the longest. No, but I'm serious, man. I think we gotta stop doing stuff like that. Cause I went in thinking that this was gonna be the scariest movie I ever seen in my life. I went in thinking, like, oh, this is gonna get me. Just like the first time I watched sinister in a dark basement in my friend's house, you know? And I'm like, this is gonna be crazy. And it was crazy, but not for those reasons. And it was scary, but not really as Gary as, like, I think maybe the it movie was more scary.
[00:10:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:39] Speaker A: Watching it the first time.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I felt like it was scary. Like, it was more unsettling. Like, I didn't think it was, like, scary scary. But besides that, also, speaking of the cast.
Oh, her name is Ica, yes.
Yeah. What do you think of her? I didn't realize that she was in it follows. I also didn't realize that she was in the watcher. Not the new watcher that just came out, but the watcher that came out on shutter maybe a year or two ago.
[00:11:11] Speaker A: Didn't see that one.
[00:11:11] Speaker B: It's good. It is actually pretty good. Um, I didn't realize, uh, that she was the same person. Uh, what do you think of her performance of this?
[00:11:22] Speaker A: Great.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: You liked it?
[00:11:23] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Fantastic.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: I thought she was a little dry in spots, but I think that's what it was supposed to be.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: I think so too. I think. Here's my thing. I think a lot of times I'm noticing that people are, are finding certain characters in movies and tvs to be, like, coded. You know, you've heard that term being kind of thrown around a lot now. People might say, oh, that character's queer coded, or that character might be, like, autistic coded and stuff like that. I kind of got those vibes from her. And obviously, and apologies if this comes across in any bad way. And I don't mean for it to.
And I don't mean to sound ignorant or anything like that.
I am not diagnosed with autism, so I have, have no real authority or anything like that. But I'm watching it and I'm watching her and just the mannerisms that she had, how she was just reacting to people and whatnot. And, like, you know, how you were saying that you felt like maybe her performance was dry in some parts, when I was watching it, I'm thinking in my head, maybe this character is autistic, coded. Like, maybe she's on the spectrum, you know, maybe that was written in, and I don't know, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. And I'm reaching, but I was thinking that, and I thought that was just kind of. Kind of cool. And I like when characters can be like that sometimes. Like. And I don't know if sometimes this just occurs naturally through the performance of an actor. Maybe that, you know, these just isms that they'll have or. No, I may not say isms. That doesn't sound correct. But these just, like, maybe these, like, different.
Just these different things that they might do in the role. You know, just, like, subtleties and whatnot might come across in a way that makes someone else feel seen. That's really what I'm getting at. Maybe someone looks at that and they see a bit of themselves in that character, and they're like, oh, wow, they're like me.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: Cause it did feel like.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: I felt like her performance felt very unique. It didn't feel generic to me. It didn't feel like generic beat cop or generic detective. She felt like a very specific character. Like she was a character.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: No, I get that. It's kind of like, sorry, review. I.
I bring up a lot of marvel films, but I saw a review of, like, people talking about the Guardians films. Al Drax is, like, a beloved character. I saw somebody talk about how, like, his brother or cousin or something, like, somehow related.
Random person online. Don't know who they are, but, I mean, it could be fake. It could be fake news, but I don't know, but it was like, their brother or some, like, some type of relative loves to see Drax in the Guardians films, because Drax tends to have more qualities on the autistic side, and this. This certain individual family member is on the autistic spectrum, and they connected with that character.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: That's what I mean.
[00:14:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:25] Speaker A: I feel like some people can watch it and whether. Whether it's true that that character is meant to be that way and the, you know, the filmmakers meant for it to be that way or not. I do love seeing people find that connection, you know, and because that's. That's all we were really wanting when we're watching these films. You know, you. You love to see, you know, yourself or your. Someone else or just to connect in some way. You know, that's what visual arts is. Exactly. This is bringing you in what art is in general.
[00:14:53] Speaker B: Exactly. Visual arts is a big.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: And that's why I really loved about her character was I felt. I felt like even though this might not be me connecting, just a thought of, like, I love just how not generic this character is that I knew, like, someone's gonna connect with this. Someone's gonna. Gonna feel, you know, her as a character. And I love that. I love the performance. Good job. Good job, Micah.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: You know, I think after you're talking about it, I do appreciate it more. I think when I initially went into the film, I was like, a little, like, okay. Like, it's okay.
I liked her more in other parts, you know, but I did appreciate her character. Like, I appreciate the dried, like, beats cop. Yeah, the I. Agent, whatever.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: Because you gotta think about it, too, Ian. I think. I think it stands out to you also, because we oftentimes have so many performances from other actors that are cookie cutter.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true.
[00:15:48] Speaker A: Not to say that they're bad or anything like that, but it feels samey.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true.
[00:15:53] Speaker A: I feel like a lot of times now, nowadays, especially in huge blockbuster films, we have a lot of performances from almost non actors, like, people who are kind of just celebrity and they're just being themselves.
And because of that, you're not really getting a lot of that real performance, that real, like, authentic, just original, like character. Yeah. So you see something like that, and I could totally see why your first thought could be like, oh, that's. You know, she seems sort of dry. Well, she was, but I think I felt like. I think it was intentional. That was the point.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: It's so funny you actually think about that, because my. Okay, so not this past year, but the year before. I lived with my parents again for, like, a year, and they literally watched nothing but freaking SVU. Law and order. Law and order. Just plain in criminal minds. And it was just like, I mean, there's some great episodes, some great tv episodes, you know, in there. But it is very formulaic after a while that you're just like, oh, you know, this is like, you know, he's like the bad guy, and he's gonna be saying his bad guy monologue, or he's gonna act like this and they're gonna act like this. I like how you bring that up as a new perspective on that. Yeah.
But, yeah, I think that's really it for this intro part that we had, I didn't have much besides that. And so if we want to just get into the spoiler part of the movie.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: Yeah, let's spoil it up.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: Yeah. So once again, stop watching if you haven't watched it. This is spoilers. We're entering the spoiler territory.
Watch the film. If you're watching this, watch the film.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: Watch it in theaters. This film deserves to be seen in theaters. This film deserves your money.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: Every film, I think, deserves to be seen in theaters.
[00:17:46] Speaker A: We want extra, more films in theaters. The only way to do that is to get in the theater. Plus, theater experiences are fun.
[00:17:55] Speaker B: I agree.
My uncle is anti theater. Sorry, this is a side tangent. My uncle doesn't like the theater because he thinks it's dirty. But I, I mean, I don't 100% disagree with him on that, but we got, we got a, like a, we can wash our clothes, we can take a shower, we can go to the.
[00:18:12] Speaker A: Theater, see the movie, come back, join us again.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: Let's spoil it. Spoiling it up.
So first entrance, first time we see the man, long legs, kind of like a flashback. I like how they did the aspect ratio.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: Oh, I love that.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Kind of gave it like an old school film, like, like family film.
[00:18:39] Speaker A: You know, anytime you do that, the aspect, that's four three ratio.
[00:18:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's, I was going to say that, but I didn't, I'm not a film major, so I wasn't going to say no.
[00:18:50] Speaker A: Whenever they hit the four three aspect ratio, you know, they're, they're trying to, they're going to do some arts here. This is supposed to be like a photograph.
[00:18:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: I like, that's really what they were going for is more of like the photograph, kind of like, oh, this is old. And then they framed it up and almost like Charlie Brown esque, like we don't see the people's, the parents faces. And I thought that was kind of funny. Yeah, you don't see the adults faces. And I loved that until he was like, oh, I think they have lost.
[00:19:18] Speaker B: My long legs today. Yeah. And we get a quick glimpse of his face and not the full face.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: It was only like nose down, I think.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
I literally thought at first he was like, I don't know why. I thought when he dropped down to show his full face, I thought for whatever reason he was just going to like rip his legs off. I don't know what, I don't know.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: What movie you thought you were seeing. I don't know.
[00:19:41] Speaker B: I thought I was in to watch the scariest movie ever.
[00:19:44] Speaker A: This is what happens when you mislead people with marketing.
[00:19:46] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
[00:19:47] Speaker A: You get this.
[00:19:48] Speaker B: I thought this was a guy rip his legs.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: He was going to see, saw five 5D.
But he was really seeing long legs.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Long legs, the movie long legs, long legs, the musical.
[00:20:02] Speaker A: And that I'd pay to see.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: I think that would be interesting. But anyways, yeah, I love the opening. I think the opening is really great. Really scary. And then when we get introduced years later, I picked up that the little girl that we saw in the very beginning is also the big girl that we see following, who's an FBI agent now.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: I didn't get that until towards the end.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: Oh, really?
[00:20:29] Speaker A: Yeah. So that. That didn't hit me until, like, way later. I was not thinking that at all. I was just thinking, oh, just cold open. Got a lot of. Got ourselves a nice little cold, cold open case here. And this is just showing, like, a time where he was long legging it up.
[00:20:43] Speaker B: See, I kind of try to think of this as 40 chests now, because I don't know if you ever seen it, but it came out. Might have been last year, 2022. But it's, see how they run or how, like, something like that. But it's like a. A crime noir film that came out a couple years ago, and they literally tell the ending of the movie in the movie.
And I just. But it's like, like they're there. It's a play. Like, it's center around a play. Someone dies. That is a big actor.
[00:21:16] Speaker A: No, that's fair.
[00:21:18] Speaker B: They're like, oh. Like, oh, this is how we think it should end. And it's like this. Cops got a gun and blah, blah, blah. And I literally sat there and I was like, this is gonna be at the end of the movie, right?
[00:21:29] Speaker A: They're telling me right now.
[00:21:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And it was. So now I try to just think.
[00:21:32] Speaker A: Like, like I'm the opposite dude. I think with all of, like, the. Just the knowledge that I've gained over the years of just how films get made, I think I have to actively turn my brain off a bit when I'm watching movies, especially horror movies. It's my favorite movie genre. So that I'm not doing that because I don't want. Because otherwise, I'm going to be picking it apart the whole time. I'm going to be thinking about what went right, what went wrong. How do they do this? How'd they make that work? And then I'm going to be thinking plot, and I'm going to be thinking, oh, okay, well, you know, how's this plot structure going? Like, what actor we in? How are they going to get from point a to point b? And I'm going to come up with the rest of the story in my head, you know, and that. And when I do that, I'm not fully immersed in the film fair, so I like to do that on a second watch. First watch, I'm like, I try to turn my brain off and I'm just in it. I'm not trying to figure out what's going to happen. If I do catch it, I catch it. If I don't, you know, I'm really just like, moment to moment. Like, let me experience.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: That is kind of interesting. I felt the opposite when I learned more about any subject, really. I feel like, well, now I'm like. Like have a decent knowledge on it. You know, I.
I think that it's like, it's the same thing. I'm. I'm a pro wrestling fan. I like pro wrestling. I definitely fake. I'm not one of those people. I know it's fake.
Yeah.
But, like, I literally.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: Crazy.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: I watched a wrestling match today before coming over here, and I was talking to my wife about it, and she was watching it with me, and I literally go, this is what's going to happen. This person is going to do this, and that person is going to do that, and that person will then give the advantage to the other person, and then they will do their finish, and it's going to be the finish of the match. And I was right.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: You were right. Yeah, you pretty.
[00:23:24] Speaker B: I could book it. I could book it. I can.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: You should.
[00:23:27] Speaker B: I can see it. I wish that'd be a nice job, but anyways.
But I don't think that hinders it in my experience. I'd like to. I kind of feel like it's like, gives me a backstage pass, you know, like I'm in on it, you know? So that's why I did appreciate that. And I was like, okay, this person is the little girl, and we don't know that yet, but I think this is this person, and we get to.
It's a very hard open, in my opinion. You know, they're looking for someone who's some serial killer or mass murderer person.
[00:24:05] Speaker A: Did you catch in that sequence that that Micah's character looked at her partner before they said who her partner was?
[00:24:14] Speaker B: No, I didn't.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: Yeah, she does. She turns her head and looks at him and then the camera.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: Oh, you're right. She does him, too.
[00:24:21] Speaker A: And then she. And that's basically her having a bit of that 6th sense.
[00:24:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't think about that. I just thought, like, maybe there was some type of, like, we're good partners or good friends?
No, I got, man, you know, I.
[00:24:34] Speaker A: Didn'T think about this is what I mean when I say I love, I love those little, there's little subtle things, you know, you notice it and like, I didn't pick that, pick that up on first watch, but second watch, I was like, oh, that's nice. But you're right. We had that, that open. And then we go into them searching around this interesting neighborhood that I feel like I've been in before. Like, I feel like I've definitely been in a neighborhood like that looking for this guy. And that, that's the part of the, the horror that I liked of this. And it's not even really horror, but like just the tension building where it's like the suburban cooped up, how the houses look, the same kind of neighborhood, and it's got these little kind of alleyways in between that like you, you know, that if someone wanted to, they could kind of sneak, you know. Yeah, but you don't know what's going on. So it was really that, that I think did a good job of, of that setting. Did a good job of like, making the mundane, you know, scary. And I love, that's one thing I loved about long legs. And I love about movies like this that are a bit grounded. You know, they do a good job of making them, the mundane feel horrifying.
[00:25:44] Speaker B: So, yeah, I think that was good. Um, kind of fast forwarding, uh, through this, um, you know, hard open gunshot. By now she's somewhat kind of psychic. Somewhat just.
[00:25:58] Speaker A: Yeah, because she picks up, she's got, she's got a tingle.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: Um, we get a lot of scenes where they're putting her on a new case that is unsolved.
And we get to her house, her cabin. And is it in the woods? Kind of. Okay, cabin in the woods, not, not the funny comedy horror film, but Kevin in the woods. I was expecting some, like, scary stuff to be happening.
[00:26:22] Speaker A: Right.
[00:26:23] Speaker B: We did not get that.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: No. And that's, again, where I feel like the movie, it's, it's weird because it's like the movie is subverting expectations, but I don't think it meant to. I think that, that the movie, this is just the movie. And because of the marketing, you were thinking you were going to get some crazy, like, super scary scene. And there was like some tension and suspense in that scene of the hat. Like it was long leg. I was chasing her through the house or whatever, but it wasn't played in the way that you would have thought had this been like a conjuring movie.
[00:26:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:55] Speaker A: It played on the way that you would have thought if you would have went in thinking that this was like a silence of the lambs.
[00:27:01] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, which I want to say that, in my opinion, is still horror to an extent.
[00:27:07] Speaker A: Yeah, of course.
[00:27:08] Speaker B: Because I saw the beats are different. They're different.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: I think that that's the big distinction. Like, the. The main beats are always gonna just be a bit different. And the way that the atmosphere is played into it and everything, it's just. It's just different. It's not the same as a conjuring. It's not the same as a. You know, as an. As a nun or a sinister. They're just not. They're just not the same.
[00:27:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:33] Speaker A: You know.
[00:27:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
We still. We see a little bit of long legs in the background, you know, doing his little long leg things.
Not really stretching them legs.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: No. But he's back there.
[00:27:46] Speaker B: He's back there. It's very suspenseful.
You know, there's some. It's some beautiful shots we get. I do like the FBI director.
I don't know his name.
[00:27:58] Speaker A: Yeah, he did a fantastic job, as did Mike Monroe's mom. I'm not remembering her name either, but she also did. She was a fantastic job.
[00:28:07] Speaker B: There was a part of me that thought maybe, like, Micah was just talking to no one at one point.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: See, that would have been interesting. Now we're playing into a little bit of psychosis, maybe a little bit of mental health.
[00:28:19] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I thought they were going on.
[00:28:21] Speaker A: Yeah, because of the phone conversations were a bit, like, off, like, oh, why is she saying these things? But it makes sense towards the end, sort of once we get to the doll stuff. And that's where I feel like, you know, I got a gripe and I got a gripe.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: You got a gripe with the doll stuff? Interesting, because I thought it was.
[00:28:39] Speaker A: I got a gripe.
[00:28:40] Speaker B: Okay, go ahead and I'll talk.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Okay, so in this movie, we got these dolls. These dolls are. You find out that these dolls are what controls the. The people, because they're. The whole thing is that we're trying to figure out, well, how the heck is long legs getting these families to kill themselves? It doesn't make sense. We always. We have him at the scene, but we never have. He's never the one doing the murdering. So how does that work? Well, it's the dolls he's got. He makes the doll. He's the doll maker. And the devil, I guess, puts juju magic in a ball. In a weird metal ball. Metal ball. And they. And then long leg put the metal ball inside the doll, and that. And they gift that dollar to the child in a family whose birthday is on the 14th. I don't get that significance, but the birthday has got to be on the 14th. And that that doll allows devil man to infect the family's mind, basically, and get them to go cuckoo bananas and murder each other. That is what happens. Now, my gripe is that at this point in the movie, we transitioned from procedural cop detective thriller. We transitioned from. From seven and silence of the lambs right on into conjuring. And I didn't enjoy that because I felt like we were really getting just kind of.
I don't know. I feel like we were really just getting two different films at that point. And at that point, you had to choose a. Which one's gonna. Which part of the film is gonna get them the most? Like, screen time, essentially. And you can't. You can't do both. And they try to do both. And I think that it still was fine, but I think that they would have leaned heavily into one or the other, like, had, like, either make this film be more about the supernatural and have that be more in the forefront from the beginning, because at the end of the day, long legs really wasn't that important. He. He, you know, he died off pretty. Yeah, he's the puppet. He died off pretty decently early into the film and just kind of gave way to the rest of the plot. And for Micah to figure out, well, who was his accomplice. Well, it's someone who's close to you. It's your mom. Congrats. You know, that was a little shocking. No, no, it was definitely shocking, but that. That also, to me, felt more. This is just a human. This is a person. This is your mom. It felt more leaning into what could have just been like, you got a cuckoo bananas mom, and, you know, like, that's it. And, like, that leaned more into a more grounded story. That's not like the conjuring. So that's why my gripe was just like. I felt like they should have really leaned heavily one way or the other. Give us seven or give us the conjuring. We can't do both in this sense, because there's. There. If you're going with the supernatural now I got more questions. What's with these? What? These balls? What's with these dolls? What's with long legs? Where'd he come from? Is he her dad? Who is this man, where the devil at? And, yeah, they said, where'd that devil be? I know they said that they got him, like, you know, appearing in the background in different places, yada, yada, like 17 times like that. Yeah, but I noticed, no, I noticed some of them, not all of them, maybe like four or five, but it's just one of those things where it's like, okay, okay. But like, which way are we going? Is this. If it's more supernatural, we need to see him more. Show them more.
Show more. I want more.
You know, I don't know. Yeah, no, I know. We're getting cut for time here a little bit.
[00:32:22] Speaker B: No, you're fine. You're fine. I agree with you. I think that, you know, I think that, I wish it was scarier. I was really going in for a good scare. I agree, especially because I saw Maxine a few weeks before that and I was really hoping Maxine was going to be really scary, but it really wasn't. It was more so like a cop drama film and, you know, which is fine, but I just wish that I was in for being scared, which is weird because if you knew me in like, younger life, I did not want that at all.
[00:32:57] Speaker A: But now you're, you're a little scared.
[00:32:58] Speaker B: Now because of living with you for a year. I was in doing movies with, I.
[00:33:03] Speaker A: Turned you out, Ian.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I just, I tricked once. You see hereditary, it's kinda, and like.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: The band aid out, baby.
[00:33:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
But there's also just a side tangent. There's great horror films. Yeah. But anyways, I think that there was some really beautiful cinematography in this film.
[00:33:23] Speaker A: 100% shots, major screen grabs.
[00:33:26] Speaker B: I think the biggest thing that I loved about the film shot wise was when they were expecting, um, the barn and they were finding the, the first doll when they have that beautiful shot where they're like the, the head FBI guy and Micah's character are in that bar, the top part of the barn, and it's just the light is peering through. Yeah, that was just beautiful. It was just like, oh, man, this is like a work of art right here.
But besides that, like, I agree with it being a not scary. Marketing should have done better in that because I love those kind of slightly terrifying, like, I love silence of Liam's. I like seven.
I like those films. But it just is like, I would have appreciated it more if I knew it was a cop first and then a horror second. Like the x files in a way.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: You know what I mean? Yeah. Cause then you get that whole fan base out you know, and maybe they wouldn't have been beforehand. Or at least that now you're getting them to kind of market more for you. Cause they can go see it first. They can go to your early screenings. Heck, you can invite some of, some of those fans, find those fans online. It's not hard. And invite. Invite them to pre screenings and whatnot so that they can sing your movie's praises. We don't need to champion a film as being the scariest film since the conjuring or I, our paranormal activity, if it's not, and we got to be honest with ourselves about stuff.
[00:35:00] Speaker B: I like the paranormal activities that's scary over parallel activity.
[00:35:03] Speaker A: Did the same thing.
[00:35:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I think conjuring is pretty scary.
I mean, I watch that like it's no tomorrow now. I love the favorite line in that film is Bathsheba. But anyways, anywho, yeah, I think we can probably wrap it up and then we got a game going on. Yeah. And then.
Any final thoughts at all?
[00:35:30] Speaker A: Good movie.
A pretty, pretty solid film.
I think. If you have the time and the ability to see it twice and you are a fence sitter, see it again, see how you feel. I was a fence sitter the first time, not thinking. I thought I didn't like it, but I was a fence sitter on just wondering whether or not I truly, truly enjoyed it or if I just thought it was okay. But I think after watching the second time, I was like, no, I do enjoy this movie. I like this. I think it's a good movie.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: I think.
[00:35:57] Speaker A: I think it's something that people should see. You should pay to see it. It's a movie. Go see it.
[00:36:03] Speaker B: A final review. Oh, I guess I can go.
I think it's good. I don't think it's bad. I've seen a lot worse.
Nick Cage is fun in it. I love a good Nick Cage film.
[00:36:14] Speaker A: We love him. You love him.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: I don't think he's bad at all. I like his appreciation of film in interviews.
I like Micah.
I liked her in it follows, and I like her in the watcher.
I think it's a solid film. I don't think it's anything. I think if I wish to watch it, I might give it a different review. But I think based off of just seeing it the first time, being hyped up from the marketing, which being the advertising marketing person, did its job, but it just was a little bit of a letdown to an extent. In that sense, it's uneasy, but it's not terrifying. And that's what I was expecting, is terrifying. I agree.
My final grading of it is a b.
[00:37:08] Speaker A: So I'm gonna have to see your b minus and raise it to a b plus for myself.
[00:37:13] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: Plus. Solid b plus. Good job, guys.
[00:37:16] Speaker B: Good job.
[00:37:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Average.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: I do think it's.
[00:37:18] Speaker A: Well, I guess it's above average.
[00:37:20] Speaker B: I think that if the story was just a little stronger, I think it'd be up to a b to b plus. Yeah, the story was just kind of like, maybe. Maybe even more the expectation.
[00:37:31] Speaker A: Go see it. It's good movie.
[00:37:32] Speaker B: I still suggest you go see it.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: Go see it.
[00:37:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
All right, well, you want to jump into this game? Yeah, I got a game for you.
[00:37:40] Speaker A: We're going to. We're going to close this out, though. Yeah. So if you want to see the game, you got to jump on the Patreon, so.
[00:37:47] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:37:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, get on the Patreon. Ian has. He may have long legs, but he doesn't have a long memory.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: Long legs.
[00:37:56] Speaker A: So check us out there on the Patreon. You want to see us play this long leg game? All right. Um, thank you guys for listening to this podcast. Thank you guys for watching it. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Uh, hurry up. Catch us before we're gone. Catch us. Find us where we're at on. On socials, our podcast.
[00:38:15] Speaker B: You can find me on letterbox if you want, which, my letterbox is a little outdated now because I made it.
[00:38:20] Speaker A: For our old podcast, but it's okay.
[00:38:22] Speaker B: It's bro what? I think it's bro BBR or something like that.
[00:38:26] Speaker A: They'll find it. They'll catch us.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: Catch me on letterbox.
[00:38:29] Speaker A: All right, guys, goodbye.
[00:38:30] Speaker B: See you. Bye.
